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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops
Posted by: Eric Robbie
Date/Time: 22/03/2004 18:39:38

Look, as anyone can tell you, I don't get out much, and I have to climb on foot down here to the sheep station, to get a truck to the nearest one-bar, one general store town - and even then they won't let on line for more that ten minutes at a time ...

But I clearly didn't know what I was starting, did I?

If I can help:

1. To Robin Manuell - the comparison with Gurdjieff is well-made, and I think that psychologically, RB (in the time I knew him) reached into many of the same states. He did not, however, in any of that time ever refer to Gurdjieff.
2. To Anthony: yes, I do know it's a JG site, and I have read WITW - and to be honest, I don't feel very comfortable being here. You may know/you may recall/ that I was taken to task in WITW for daring (a) to apparently
not know what a 'proof' is, and (b) for ever so gently 'poking JG in the ribs' (ie, criticising) as we English say in a paper I wrote in 2000. I do notice that somewhere else in another thread, JG gives a belatd explanation of his interests and studies into the the kind of cognitive psychology that followed on when the group called 'Generative Semanticists' realised their aim of - well for want of a better phrase, matching up meaning and the 1965-76 idea of 'deep structure' - that attempt wasn't going to fly.
And, to tell you the truth Anthony, I'm not comfortable here still - and I only came in to look for something Google turned up.
3.To Jon Edwards: you're on the nose -as far as I understand Bandler's use of nested loops, both the term and the structure derive from computer programming.
4. To (I think) John Schetzer: - yes, there are precursors to the therapy use of nested loops - try Steve Lankton's The Answer Within, where he calls them Multiple Embedded Metaphors.
5. And finally, if I may, to Mr Grinder: I agree with you that there are those things called long-range dependencies, and nested dependencies - and they can be fun, can't they? My favourite is: What did you bring that book out of which I don't like being read to out of up for? You know, five prepositions all in a row. What I am quite clear about is that (a) in all my conversations with Bandler, he never, ever referred to such dependencies, and that (b) the one and only source for his use of the term 'nested loops' is from the world of computer program writing.
Now, if you will forgive me, I have to begin the long journey home. After today, 'they' won't let me out of for another few days, now.
Eric Robbie.

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 14:53:29Bob
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 15:49:37hey
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 15:59:55Bob
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 16:01:35Derrin Ferkil
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 02:27:15Jim R
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 03:03:36Derrin
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 01:16:18Jim
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 03:05:17Anthony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 03:21:52Frankie T.
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 10:11:13sam
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 13:08:50t
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 00:16:53Frankie T
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 17:07:33Gabriel
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 07/09/2003 20:29:06vee
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 08/09/2003 02:57:34Gabriel
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 15/03/2004 18:40:07Eric Robbie
               YEAH ! I'm dying to hear more about this !15/03/2004 19:16:12jonathan
               Re:Re:Re:Richard Bandler and his loops nesting 15/03/2004 23:32:55NY
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 00:26:27nj
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 04:17:57Tony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 05:19:03keith Harris
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 12:58:20Tony
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 00:20:31Robin Manuell
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 20:43:13John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 00:34:58Robin Manuell
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 22/03/2004 18:39:38Eric Robbie
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 09:19:52Anthony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 10:22:59John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 13:24:00El ChupaCabra
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 13:55:18Jon Edwards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 14:21:53John Schertzer
                                   feathering your nest17/03/2004 14:47:11jonathan
                                        Re:feathering your nest17/03/2004 15:02:48John Schertzer
                                        Re:feathering your nest18/03/2004 16:17:57El ChupaCabra
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 00:49:45Robin Manuell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 15:39:25John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 16:23:27El ChupaCabra
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 22/03/2004 17:56:28Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 20/03/2004 02:17:56Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 22/03/2004 09:10:47nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 30/03/2004 18:00:51Eric Robbie
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 05:06:53catch
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 05:44:28Tom Touseral
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 31/03/2004 02:49:45Chris W
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 08/09/2003 06:17:28InnerCalm

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