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Topic: Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John
Posted by: Tony
Date/Time: 20/04/2004 11:45:48

Forget about encountering NLP at the doctoral level - not going to happen.
Grinder's doctorate was in linguistics.  Bandler's "doctorate" was in ????.  Psychologists aren't going to spend their time on this.
When you get to the doctoral level, you will learn how to do academic research.  You can get a shortcut by going to Dissertation Abstracts Online and searching for NLP by its abbreviation as well as its full name.  Also search for eye movements, representational systems, predicate matching and rapport.
You will find a whole slew of people who have studied NLP in a research testing setting.
For the most part, NLP failed virtually all of the tests.
NLP'dom responded blaming the researchers instead of acknowledging and fixing a problem.

Guess they didn't realize it's a far cry from Bandler and Grinder "curing" someone who is an expectant volunteer (Like a faith healing) at the front of the room and a double blind study.

Very few, pathetically few, NLP studies showed it to be a valid science.

Eye movements, matching predicates, matching posture etc all failed repeated tests.

But, enjoy NLP and come up with something to study.

At the rate research goes, you could still be the first to prove the states John and Carmen talk about in WITW or you could be the first
to prove they're full of hot air.

NLP never made it into the text books because it couldn't be proven.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 02:36:39stephen
     Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 11:45:48Tony
          Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 14:44:57Robert Ballentine
               Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 15:29:48John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 18:19:46Tony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 21:44:32John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 22:27:19Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 22:54:25Pete West
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 00:08:54Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 16:02:22John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 01:24:02Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 04:02:40Tony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 04:06:48+
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 13:28:22Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 19:04:04tr
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 02:08:39Jim R
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 03:24:37Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 14:05:59Jim r
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 14:38:26Tony
          Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John31/07/2004 23:47:29RMK
     Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 16:05:08stephen
     Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 00:33:53riddick
     Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 02:48:28Ryan Nagy
          Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 04:05:32Tony
               Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 07:58:09Ryan Nagy
                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 09:34:36nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 13:25:51Tony
               Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 08:58:17nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...22/04/2004 01:19:25stephen
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...22/04/2004 03:26:37Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...22/04/2004 17:25:12John Grinder

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