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Topic: Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John
Posted by: riddick
Date/Time: 21/04/2004 00:33:53


Subjectivity cannot be measured or quantified. There are too many variables.
So, what the hell has psychology ever done to provide tools for people to run their own brains? Sweet FA.
Let's be precise, what exactly is it about NLP that doesn't work? the technology or the modelling.
The modelling of Erickson by JG and RB certainly allowed for hiss methods to be reproduced to an effective level.
If people applied the the basic presuppositions of NLP to their lives they would have a set of powerful tools. Far more effective infact then the muck raking, lets-go-dig-up-your-past-shit-and-I'll-repeat-back-to-you-what-you-just-told -me-because-I-don't-have-the-courage-to-influence-you-crap.
I think I'll just empathise with my client and have counselling myself bollocks.
The reason you won't find NLP or anything like its attitute in psychology is that the psychology professors (or at least the ones I've met,) are shit scared of anything that gets you to talk to your client as a real person and not just some statistic that needs to be quantified.
Teach them reframing and it makes their head explode.
I've enjoyed my rant and now I feel good. Thakns for reading.
JG and RB, although yop may be taking different routes, keep it up.
Riddick



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Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 02:36:39stephen
     Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 11:45:48Tony
          Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 14:44:57Robert Ballentine
               Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 15:29:48John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 18:19:46Tony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 21:44:32John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 22:27:19Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 22:54:25Pete West
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 00:08:54Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 16:02:22John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 01:24:02Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 04:02:40Tony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 04:06:48+
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 13:28:22Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 19:04:04tr
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 02:08:39Jim R
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 03:24:37Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 14:05:59Jim r
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John22/04/2004 14:38:26Tony
          Re:Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John31/07/2004 23:47:29RMK
     Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John20/04/2004 16:05:08stephen
     Re:Frogs to Princes - Some questions for John21/04/2004 00:33:53riddick
     Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 02:48:28Ryan Nagy
          Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 04:05:32Tony
               Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 07:58:09Ryan Nagy
                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 09:34:36nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 13:25:51Tony
               Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...21/04/2004 08:58:17nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...22/04/2004 01:19:25stephen
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...22/04/2004 03:26:37Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Back to Stephen's question...22/04/2004 17:25:12John Grinder

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