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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position
Posted by: Golf Swing Modeler
Date/Time: 04/07/2003 14:48:12

To the above I need to qualify:

The system for modeling I am proposing is making a presupposition (a powerful I have found) that to fully model someone in 2nd position you model not only their initiated behaviour but their results realisation.  To claify, this places the model to be modeled as a complete set outside beyond the individual and encompasses the awareness of external stimuli also.  So you are modeling in second position the movements, and the responses and awareness of outside results. 

For example:  in the golf swing, you could find V external during the swing (although some people close their eyes at impact)...the internal visuals and auditory visuals are not high, the kinesthetic sensations are extremely sensitive and on full alert.

If you imagine the mastery skill to be modeled as a bubble, it would include all the surroundings to the individual, the individuals responses (or not) to the environment, the individuals initiated activities (pre-visualisation activies, self talk and states) and kinesthetic movements and internal representations and states.

This presupposition allows you to notice the results you are getting and make distinctions, and improvements to the modeling process and the skill you are actually generating.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Dilts Critic and 3rd position28/06/2003 06:07:49John C
     Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position28/06/2003 15:54:54John Grinder
          Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position28/06/2003 16:27:24John C
               Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position30/06/2003 14:02:12John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position30/06/2003 14:10:46The count
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position30/06/2003 19:08:17Ryan Nagy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position30/06/2003 22:08:02The count
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position30/06/2003 20:17:57Spike
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position30/06/2003 21:15:20John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 07:34:41John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 13:22:19Ernest
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 14:01:45John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 15:06:49Ernest
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 16:07:25John Schertzer
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 21:59:02The count
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position03/07/2003 14:05:24John Schertzer
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position03/07/2003 15:16:41The count
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 18:11:08John Grinder
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 19:37:44John Schertzer
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 19:57:28Golf Swing Modeler
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position04/07/2003 14:48:12Golf Swing Modeler
                                                            Re:04/07/2003 16:01:18Sean
                                                                 Re:Re:04/07/2003 16:46:19Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:04/07/2003 16:54:04Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:06/07/2003 10:29:42Sean
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:06/07/2003 12:57:05Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:06/07/2003 23:13:15Sean
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:07/07/2003 09:43:07Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:04/07/2003 23:59:47Sean
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position08/07/2003 14:28:44John Schertzer
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position08/07/2003 14:30:09John Schertzer
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position08/07/2003 15:02:41Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position09/07/2003 01:58:02Sean
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position31/07/2003 13:34:03Sean
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Critic and 3rd position02/07/2003 13:47:47John Schertzer

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