Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B |
Posted by: | njs |
Date/Time: | 12/05/2005 02:06:16 |
Hi, Mark. 1. You wrote, "Now, as mentioned in previous posts there can sometimes be strong “initial reaction” (often “interpreted” as excitement, and/or urgency) from the unconscious to communicate (taking the form of multiple, and/or rapid, and/or confusing signals), and it may seem like the unconscious has forgotten (momentarily) that the conscious is only working with those 7+- 2 chunks. However this “initial reaction”, (from my experience) is (usually) just the unconscious being very, very obvious that it is there, and is interested in communicating, (as has been confirmed once the signals have been stabilized, (for all of you “how do/did you know that?” epistemology checkers out there ;-) )). " You're writing about helping a person misbelieve that part of her mental function is both closed to her and communicating with her and further that its knowledge is epistemologically adequate in a way that her conscious knowledge is not. Suppose you ask someone a yes/no question. Then you ask the same question of that person, but you also ask that his unconscious communicate an answer using a finger or leg twitch, or other hypnotized communication channel. The two answers disagree. If your hypnosis method or procedure presumes that the unconscious response is accurate, then in this situation you believe that the muscle twitch method of answering a yes/no question provides better information than a person's conscious thought processes. And your presumptions will happen to be right or wrong, on a case-by-case basis. Your client can appreciate what bounds the epistemological value of a conscious response compared to a muscle twitch response, but you'd have to know what connections exist between the range of a person's responses, and the knowledge that person uses and has available, at the time you help the person answer your question by some method, by speaking it, or unconsciously twitching a muscle, or by some other means. Maybe twitch signals can perform speech acts that the conscious mind won't. For example, many times I haven't had an answer to a question put to me, but I did know how I little I wanted to accept the results of one of the possible answers for my internal experience. In such a situation, the same question put to my muscle twitch might serve me, particularly if it altered my internal experience of the results of one of the answers. Then, hopefully, I could reawaken from trance, and have an easier time reasoning toward an accurate and thoughtful answer to the original question put to my consciousness. For example, if I asked you, "Do you agree with my opinion?" you might answer "yes", in order to avoid me further trying to convince you. You may not have evaluated my opinion at the time you made your statement. How you would help someone in a state of trance to be able to answer your questions with less lack of desire for one of the possible answers you put to the person, I don't know. There are also good reasons why people answer questions consciously, rather than with finger twitches, or other hypnotically trained signals. Please expand on them during one of your parts. If a muscle-twitch signal will be given when the yes/no question conveys a false presumption as part of both answers to a question, then the finger signal approach to answering questions will not provide accurate information. The unconscious can't answer questions with any veracity if it accepts assumptions included in the question. Given how hypnosis is reputed to work, that is, given that a person comes out of trance and acts on her finger-twitch answer to your question, I think you'd want to know in advance when you can helpfully ask a person to answer with a muscle-twitch. I do. -Noah |