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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B
Posted by: njs
Date/Time: 19/05/2005 02:21:57

Hello, Mark.

Let me help you.

1.  You wrote,

" Can you please be more clear."

Yes. When you're writing about unconscious signals that work like answers, answers that can surprise you, answers that can communicate to you,  answers that rely on a different source of knowledge than the source you access consciously, that's when:

- you're writing about helping a person misbelieve that part of her mental function is both closed to her and communicating with her

- you're writing about getting answers from a source of knowledge that you presume provides her more accurate or more honest knowledge than her conscious mind uses.

That's how the unconscious mind you want to create for your reader is closed to her, although how you write about it, the unconscious seems like some little person inside that should be provoked or cajoled, some person with an agenda, style, and timing of communication that her conscious mind should want to notice and influence.

When I wrote above, "...you're writing...", I meant to refer to your writing in this thread.

2. You wrote,

"They are different answers to different questions being posed at different logical levels. This is the same logical level distinction as someone saying they 'can’t go into a dark room', when they are actually physically able to do so, but don’t 'believe' that they can."

In my example, the question is meant to contain the same words, asked of the same person, to mean the same thing.  "Did your father molest you when you were five years old?" asked twice, is a specific example.  The first time she's asked the person consciously answers "no" to that question, but the second time she's asked, she answers with an unconscious signal "yes".

3. You wrote,

"How specifically would we know if it was accurate or not (compared to what target)? We are simply asking the unconscious for a response and it provides one. It isn’t 'all knowing' it’s just giving us it’s opinion, based on it’s understanding of what it’s been asked."

I assume we'd have gathered that information beforehand.  How do you know that the unconscious mind understood the question differently, as opposed to just answering the question more accurately or honestly than the conscious mind?

There are several types of answers to consider, including:

- an accurate answer to a question
- an honest answer to a question
- an honest answer to a different question (or one that was understood differently) than is replied to by the other types of answer.

4. You wrote:

"You go on to state:... I think a simple 'WTF' will suffice here. WTF? ...Cripes man!"

Consider an expression of emotion like "Cripes, man!"  If I wrote that, I might to achieve something by doing so.  A conscious answer to a yes/no question can work the same way.  I often consciously make answers to a question NOT to truthfully or accurately answer the question, but simply to achieve a result.  I wonder if unconscious responses can work this way also, or if they never do.

I am fascinated by questions about how the unconscious answers questions.  I asked a few of those questions in this post.  If you decide to answer them, I'll be flattered. 

-Noah

ps: Others also want to know how the unconscious responds to questions.  They might benefit from your report and might also benefit from a discussion of it on this forum.  Hopefully others will respond to such a report, because I'm sure it will deserve a response.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Communicate with the unconscious06/04/2005 03:36:33Jacqueline
     Re:Communicate with the unconscious06/04/2005 09:26:07Thim Liew
     Re:Communicate with the unconscious06/04/2005 21:25:34LurkerBoi
     Re:Communicate with the unconscious07/04/2005 10:59:56John Grinder
          Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious08/04/2005 22:13:27Robert
          Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious24/04/2005 23:19:11Thomas William Heard
               Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious25/04/2005 20:37:28John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious25/04/2005 23:43:57Thomas William Heard
     Re:Communicate with the unconscious08/04/2005 18:23:15Brian Mahoney
     Re:Communicate with the unconscious10/04/2005 01:09:00Jacqueline
     Re:Communicate with the unconscious17/04/2005 13:39:05Russell
          Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 102/05/2005 20:36:42Mark MacLean
               Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 103/05/2005 15:53:15Greg Turner
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 103/05/2005 22:04:09Mark MacLean
               Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 203/05/2005 21:50:28Mark MacLean
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 204/05/2005 14:29:22Venus
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 204/05/2005 20:47:08Mark MacLean
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3A04/05/2005 19:39:40Mark MacLean
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B11/05/2005 21:12:39Mark MacLean
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B12/05/2005 02:06:16njs
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B18/05/2005 17:13:35Mark MacLean
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B19/05/2005 02:21:57njs
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B21/05/2005 23:30:48Mark MacLean
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B24/05/2005 01:59:26njs
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B19/05/2005 00:33:19Greg Turner
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B21/05/2005 23:43:13Mark MacLean
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B30/05/2005 09:38:32JPG
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B30/05/2005 16:00:21Venus
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Communicate with the unconscious - Part 3B30/05/2005 16:02:33Greg Turner

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