Hello again, Ernest. 1.  I made a few spelling errors that added ambiguity to my post. Certain parts of the post should read: "How can we begin making our way back from the virtual brink?...By returning, whenever possible, to original things; by gestures as apparently insignificant as turning off the television...." and "As we grow used to 'digesting ideas, sounds, images - distant and concocted,... a door closing, heard over the air; a face contorted, seen in a panel of light - these will emerge as the real and true....'" and "Maybe like you, I don't have many opportunities to communicate with Ms. Bostic St. Clair & Dr. Grinder in person." 2.  In post 17/05/2003 19:44:29 to this thread, you wrote, "My pressuposition. If a programmer or modeler feels/decides/ and/or  thinks he is capable enough, the more she/he learns/explores on her/his through their own experience they then have now more aquired the ability to begin to own the greater chance of making new discoveries and then own greater chance of surpassing the original creaters own expectations or accomplishments themselves. Question : Has this behavioral change occured in this field? In you? If so where? If not, why not?" My teachers usually guide my accomplishments, Ernest.  If I model, it had better make a difference in how I in-person_connect to people.  If modeling work uses the internet, Ernest, if I rely on recordings or telecast, then I'll have no necessary connection to my source model(s).  At least in person, you don't have to worry about your source model(s) vanishing when your house electricity goes out. -nj