| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Dilts Logical Levels! (pseudo-science) |
| Posted by: | Jerry |
| Date/Time: | 19/08/2003 04:06:22 |
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Thanks Ryan, I appreciate your response and I understand what you are saying, I think. I guess what I'm wondering is this: regardless of the various viewpoints (maps) you get from the various disiplines of science (not to mention the variety of maps within each disipline), do you think it is fair to suggest that your modern science contains the presuppostion that there is 'something' outside of our representations? It seems obvious that most scientist are not fond of solopsisms which throw incessant doubt on the reality of reality and all of that. While it is true, I believe, that many individual scientists and various fields of science to different degrees, forget that they are providing maps, I get the impression that most researchers and serious thinkers feel confident that something rather than nothing is transformed via their neurology and that it is this something which they would like to better understand. I think that even Ptolemy's map, for all of its inaccuracies, was able to make significant 'contact' with that 'something' he was after. Clearly the authors of "whispering" are certain that there is a 'something' out there; they refer to it all the time. Fortunately, they are equally humble as to their ability to present us with any truth in regards to it. However, they, like most serious western thinkers, do propose that at least one thing is true: science only creates models. And I am interested in knowing upon what this certainty is based? Is it based on understanding something true about the world, or is it only said because it serves a useful function. If the former is the case (that is, if we really believe we know, to a large degree, that science creates models)is this simply the best guess or is our certainty based in some sort of objective relationship between our thinking and that 'something' which exists indepently of us? Perhaps another aspect of my inquiry is: how can we make any statements about the relationship between our maps and terrority if our 'statement-making' ability exists only on the 'map' side of the equation? Jerry |