| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ethical milton and grinder |
| Posted by: | Jon Edwards |
| Date/Time: | 06/11/2003 17:31:01 |
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Hi Todd That "tickled a funny-bone" in my mind, thanks! Some more food for thought... If Form is process frozen in time, isn't that another definition of State? (using the word State has the advantage that it's colloquial usage often includes physiological variables as well as mental maps) Maybe we should focus less on state-management, and more on process-management (but maybe I'm generalising a personal preference!)? JG wrote somewhere that goals (including desired states?) are just an excuse to set yourself in motion! Is the emphasis on states too "static"? If we rename "maps (of the world)" as "interpretations", then you can denominalise "interpretation" to get a process? Beliefs (and values and other meta-generalisations) are interpretations that we forcibly "freeze in time." Dispensing with beliefs allows the natural processes of interpretation to continually evolve our maps as new information arrives from F1/FA, and simultaneously removes the filters at F1 that our beliefs were forcing us to apply in order to sustain themselves (to stay frozen). Are the know-nothing and high-performance states ways of restoring the fluidity of process? It's our conscious mind's logical preferences that tries to create beliefs (to freeze interpretations in time so they are easier to work with logically), which is why it's better to involve the unconscious as much as possible - it's much better at working with "moving targets" and seeing them systemically in relation to all the other ongoing interpretations? When the client comes to the therapist with a problem, they're saying that their own process of solving that problem is going too slowly for their liking (perhaps so slowly that it seems to have stopped), and asking us to help them speed it up (or get the process back in motion)? Have they already stepped up at least one logical level from their own content/map (consciously or unconsciously), to be able to judge that the content/map isn't working, start a problem-solving process, find that the process is going too slowly, and seek help? So for the therapist to step into content is actually a backwards-step in the process (as well as being unethical)? Am I rambling again? :-) Cheers, Jon |