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Topic: Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns
Posted by: Carmen Bostic St. Clair and John Grinder
Date/Time: 20/09/2002 17:34:11


We find your suggestions very attractive. In general, at this stage of development of NLP, any set of reasonably formal representations would add great value to the enterprise. Even a review of the miscommunications that have occurred on this website indicates a serious need for more explicit representations to ensure we are referring to the same phenomena - see Whispering, pages 351 - 352 for an elaboration of an alternative method for accomplishing this.

The GEM and GLIF formats have value - whether they are appropriate for reporting and representing patterning in NLP is an open question and one worth considering. The most interesting portion of your posting for us was the statement,

"As I've been reading WITW, part of me has been wondering "How could one represent the concepts as state-diagrams, guidelines, flowcharts, or similar"."

We are quite hopeful that your suggestion will take in the community. As you likely noticed in the section called "a recognition of the value of formalization and explicit" pages 127 and 128 in Whispering, we sense that an increase in the formal quality and explicit representation of pattening in NLP would constitute a major advance for the field. Indeed, Automata Theory is the underlying model for the linguistic portions (at least) of NLP patterning and is simultaneously the source for formal objects such as state diagrams (from Turing machines to finite state automata). We believe the fit is excellent.

Would you be willing to work up a relatively simple example of how you might take a well-known NLP pattern and represent it in state diagrams or flow charts? It would introduce some readers to what you are proposing and for those already familiar with such techniques, it would offer a model of how such representation might be done. If you want to confer off-line during the preparation of such an example, it would be a pleasure to collaborate.

All the best,

Carmen and John 

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Formats for documenting NLP patterns20/09/2002 15:13:14Jon Edwards
     Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns20/09/2002 17:34:11Carmen Bostic St. Clair and John Grinder
          Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns21/09/2002 12:36:32Jon Edwards
          Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns24/09/2002 17:11:18Jon Edwards
               Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 03:42:03John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 16:46:54Jon Edwards
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 18:33:15John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 19:16:31Jon Edwards
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns28/09/2002 06:07:46David Chuipka
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns28/09/2002 15:56:07Jon Edwards
               Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns27/09/2002 06:06:45Jeisyn Murphy
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns27/09/2002 15:24:39Jon Edwards
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 05:05:12Jeisyn Murphy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 09:21:48Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 21:53:14Jon Edwards
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 23:54:15Michael Carroll
     Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns26/09/2002 07:23:33Michael V
          Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns27/09/2002 10:48:15Jon Edwards

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