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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns
Posted by: Jon Edwards
Date/Time: 28/09/2002 15:56:07

Hi David,

Thanks for your words of encouragement! As you suggest, this is a very useful learning exercise for me. I hope it is also contributing in some small way towards the original purpose - seeking standard formats for documenting/diagramming NLP Patterns.

Your suggestions for the diagram are very useful, but I think it's important to recognise the limitations of the State-diagram format (which are also its strengths!). State-diagrams focus on a limited set of information - there's massive deletion/distortion, in order to highlight one aspect of the pattern clearly (the states involved, and the transitions between them) - so it's important not to try to get them to do too much, otherwise you risk losing that clarity.

An analogy might be the classic map of the London Underground system - see for an example. It's a highly stylised representation of the real world - if you overlayed a street map, you'd see there are massive distortions from "geographic reality" - but is very useful for its intended purpose - allowing people to plan a trip from one station to another.

Actually the link above is a good example of what I'm thinking of! If you click on the name of one of the stations, you'll see a menu appears, on which you can click to open a window with more info about Train Times, Bus Connections, and so on. I'd suggest that there is a lot of information we want to record for each state - the procedural steps you go through in that state, and variables such as scope, focus, resources....

So, in your example, when you click on the "3rd Position" box of the state-diagram, you'd get a pop-up menu, and one of the options would be "Scope". When you clicked on "Scope" it would open a new window with the diagram you describe, and additional text as required.

I wonder if John and Carmen (or anyone else) have a complete/partial list of the attributes/variables it would be useful to record for each state?

Thanks again for your suggestion, David. It helped me to clarify my thinking!

Cheers, Jon

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Formats for documenting NLP patterns20/09/2002 15:13:14Jon Edwards
     Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns20/09/2002 17:34:11Carmen Bostic St. Clair and John Grinder
          Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns21/09/2002 12:36:32Jon Edwards
          Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns24/09/2002 17:11:18Jon Edwards
               Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 03:42:03John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 16:46:54Jon Edwards
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 18:33:15John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns25/09/2002 19:16:31Jon Edwards
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns28/09/2002 06:07:46David Chuipka
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns28/09/2002 15:56:07Jon Edwards
               Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns27/09/2002 06:06:45Jeisyn Murphy
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns27/09/2002 15:24:39Jon Edwards
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 05:05:12Jeisyn Murphy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 09:21:48Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 21:53:14Jon Edwards
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns30/09/2002 23:54:15Michael Carroll
     Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns26/09/2002 07:23:33Michael V
          Re:Re:Formats for documenting NLP patterns27/09/2002 10:48:15Jon Edwards

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