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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe
Posted by: John Schertzer
Date/Time: 27/12/2002 14:18:59

'2. I have no clue what you are referring to in your statement,

"So, in a sense, the making explicit of the involuntary signal may be more of a training issue than one of application, in the long run."'

Maybe I'm just mucking things up.  I'm confused a bit, I guess, about the training/application distinction.  It seems (to me) that some people in the NLP community think of the various patterns as recipes to follow each time they do change work, or better yet, a process-map to be followed each time, while others think of them as something similar to a karate kata, a way to gain each of the skills, as unconscious competency, as well as fluidity and grace, or like some of the scale and arpeggio drills a jazz musician may run in order to improvise better.  Anyway, at my level of skill, I should probably lean toward following the process maps, and setting up or looking for involuntary signals should remain, at least for now, a conscious act.

I really appreciate the time you take to straighten me out about this stuff!

Oh, and one more thing.  I finally got to the part of the book that talks about form/content as different logical levels.  Makes lots of sense, and it puts a lot of things together for me.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
6 step reframe15/12/2002 23:39:57Lewis Walker
     Re:6 step reframe16/12/2002 02:53:05Carmen Bostic St. Clair and John Grinder
     Re:6 step reframe18/12/2002 00:57:45Michael Carroll
          Re:Re:6 step reframe18/12/2002 01:44:26thepropagandist
               Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe18/12/2002 16:48:55Michael Caroll
     Re:6 step reframe24/12/2002 17:43:41John Schertzer
          Re:Re:6 step reframe24/12/2002 19:11:52John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe25/12/2002 00:29:07Michael Carroll
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe25/12/2002 04:40:09SMH
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe26/12/2002 18:12:12John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe26/12/2002 18:09:48John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe26/12/2002 17:56:53John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe26/12/2002 18:58:51John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe26/12/2002 19:52:43John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe26/12/2002 22:57:29John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe27/12/2002 14:18:59John Schertzer
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe27/12/2002 21:28:50John Grinder
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:6 step reframe30/12/2002 14:15:01John Schertzer

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