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Topic: NLP doesnt work!!!
Posted by: Peter Stevenson
Date/Time: 22/05/2003 14:43:00

Johns answers to Mitch I would beleive are not the 1st cases Johns purported "quick fix" techniques do not work.  There are numbers and numbes of cases where the techniques in classic code and new code do not work (and always we have the obvious answer that we should calibrate and do "Ericksonian Therapyt")

1st of all these authors of NLP make there name and millions by selling "Classic code" quick fixes to all our problems..then they get rich..and now they admit that "classic code" didn't work and now we have proposed new code and new books..come on folks..where the proof of all this success..I can give you lists of people who have had ZERO success with these techniques across numeroues NLP practioners..so if NLP Patterns cannot be transferred across and do not work correctly then obviously the patterns themseleves are not patterns or distillations of models of excellence...so what does that say about modelling per se...

I believe there are many in this forum who can also see my point and the fact that these panaceas and the fact that NLP has already been labelled as quackery in the Skeptics Dictionary as further proof we need to thoroughly examine the real claims here and not just say Mitch's experience is the only one..I second Mitchs expereince of your techniques not working (and I beleive so does the silent majority) as to the proposed result.

Backup your claims John by doing live demonstrations..if I brought you 10 agorophiics and 10 people with phobias and 10 schizopherenics can you cure them with your magick?  yes or no is all that is required.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 14:43:00Peter Stevenson
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 16:09:52Pete
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 17:26:58John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 00:31:53Zhi Zhi Chien
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 00:36:40ali
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!27/05/2003 18:46:32John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 20:50:32robert
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 16:34:18John Schertzer
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 16:46:00Tbone
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 19:03:19Lewis Walker
     ReReReReRe:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 23:44:58The count
     NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 00:05:37thepropagandist
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 04:27:16Mitch
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 12:41:47Peter Stevenson
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 13:15:15walter
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 17:31:01Jim R
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 18:56:49walter
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 19:20:27Jim R
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 08:39:14Robert Johansson
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 22:06:41thepropagandist
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 23:29:22Michael Worthington
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!24/05/2003 04:09:00Peter Stevenson
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 01:05:39Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 09:00:36Peter Stevenson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 09:36:40Lee
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 10:01:45Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 11:48:18Michael Worthington
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 17:53:43Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 23:40:00Mitch
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 07:57:54Walter
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 14:08:33Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!29/05/2003 11:38:33Michael Carroll
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!29/05/2003 12:08:00Lewis Walker
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!29/05/2003 14:52:29Jim R
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!20/11/2003 12:04:33Steven
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!20/11/2003 16:47:54Lewis Walker
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!20/11/2003 20:20:58Stephen
     NLP does work!01/08/2004 00:29:38RMK

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