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Topic: Re:NLP doesnt work!!!
Posted by: John Schertzer
Date/Time: 22/05/2003 16:34:18

Peter,
Oh thanks for your keen vision and wisdom.  You're right, I'll quit now...

I for one will agree that NLP techniques don't work as easily as people often claim they do.  The truth is NLP is harder to master than people think.  And the hardest pieces are the most basic things you learn in an intro or practitioner course, just as John says, rapport and calibration.  I've witnessed some pretty amazing things, and I've been lucky enough to have had some good results myself, but they have been inconsistent.

Nobody here needs to prove anything to you, if you won't try them yourself, without sabotaging your attempts with the desire to prove the opposite.  And I'd like to point out, that if you can't spell, how are you expected to get the pattern sequence right to begin with?

What John said, is that certain things that were implicit in the old code needed to be made explicit in the new code, ie setting up unconscious signals.  That would make the results more consistent.  Again, these things aren't all that easy to do, and need lots of practice, and lots of work on oneself as well.

And whoever said one technique would work for everything?  One thing may go so far, but there's always another technique from the toolbox, or something invented at the moment, based on one's training.

And I'd be skeptical first of all of the Skeptic's Dictionary.  They have about one song in their repetoire, and it's a predictable top forty.

best,
JS


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 14:43:00Peter Stevenson
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 16:09:52Pete
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 17:26:58John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 00:31:53Zhi Zhi Chien
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 00:36:40ali
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!27/05/2003 18:46:32John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 20:50:32robert
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 16:34:18John Schertzer
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 16:46:00Tbone
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 19:03:19Lewis Walker
     ReReReReRe:NLP doesnt work!!!22/05/2003 23:44:58The count
     NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 00:05:37thepropagandist
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 04:27:16Mitch
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 12:41:47Peter Stevenson
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 13:15:15walter
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 17:31:01Jim R
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 18:56:49walter
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 19:20:27Jim R
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 08:39:14Robert Johansson
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 22:06:41thepropagandist
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!23/05/2003 23:29:22Michael Worthington
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!24/05/2003 04:09:00Peter Stevenson
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 01:05:39Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 09:00:36Peter Stevenson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 09:36:40Lee
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 10:01:45Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 11:48:18Michael Worthington
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 17:53:43Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!25/05/2003 23:40:00Mitch
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 07:57:54Walter
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!26/05/2003 14:08:33Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!29/05/2003 11:38:33Michael Carroll
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!29/05/2003 12:08:00Lewis Walker
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!29/05/2003 14:52:29Jim R
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!20/11/2003 12:04:33Steven
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!20/11/2003 16:47:54Lewis Walker
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!20/11/2003 20:20:58Stephen
     NLP does work!01/08/2004 00:29:38RMK
     Re:NLP doesnt work!!!05/08/2004 02:44:54Robert Holzhauser
          Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!05/08/2004 03:31:09Greg Alexander
               Re:Re:Re:NLP doesnt work!!!05/08/2004 04:53:56Robert Holzhauser

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