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Topic: Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?
Posted by: John Grinder and Carmen Bostic St. Clair
Date/Time: 30/08/2002 18:12:06

Hi John

You offer two questions:

"...the many variables used to create NLP models.  As far as I have been able to determine, these variables have not been published.  Do you intend to publish this part of the work?"

Yes, of course, we will at some point publish the set of such variables - we are still mapping them from their intuitive position onto an explicit map. There are several books between us and this work.

Your second question is,

"All of NLP application appears to me to be manipulation of abstractions.  The effectivess of which is measurable.  Is this true from your perspective?"

Well, we aren't quite sure what you intend. We argue strongly in Whispering that the domain over which NLP application is defined is representations - pure and simple. Now, insofar as representations are abstract, it would follow that NLP application is the manipulation of abstractions.

When you add the phrase - the effectiveness of which is measurable - we will assume that you are pointing at the crystal clear constraint in NLP applications that while the representations that are the leverage points exploited by NLP are not observable, the effectiveness of the application is tied firmly to observables - observable behavior ranging from the subtlest of breathing changes through the obvious eye movements to grosser forms of behavior - in other words, unless there are observable correlates of the internal representations that are the focus of these applications, we are blind pilots.

Do we guess correctly what you intended?

Carmen and John


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
What is the definition of variables?08/05/2002 14:43:20Thomas
     Re:What is the definition of variables?08/05/2002 22:46:32John Grinder and Carmen Bostic
          Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?20/05/2002 02:46:03Thomas again
               Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?20/05/2002 06:01:31John Grinder and Carmen Bostic
          Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?30/08/2002 01:08:41John Cox
               ReRe:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?30/08/2002 02:43:04james
               ReRe:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?30/08/2002 02:44:07james
               Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?30/08/2002 18:12:06John Grinder and Carmen Bostic St. Clair
                    ReRe:Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?30/08/2002 23:04:05kc
                         Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?31/08/2002 01:05:32Carmen Bostic St. Clair and John Grinder
                              ReReRe:Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?31/08/2002 14:52:16kc
                                   Re:ReReRe:Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?31/08/2002 20:56:48John Grinder
                                        ReRe:Re:ReReRe:Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?02/09/2002 14:56:05kc
                                        ReRe:Re:ReReRe:Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:What is the definition of variables?05/09/2002 05:07:39kc
                         To: KC, Re: Epistemology01/09/2002 05:24:20nj
                              Re:To: NJ, Re: Epistemology02/09/2002 16:01:44kc
                                   To:KC,Re: Epistemology02/09/2002 19:51:53nj

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