To John Grinder or Carmen Bostic In your response on 8/31/2002 you reply: I recommend that you read the Epistemology section carefully once again. The point that you will find elaborated there is that given the epistemology presented in Whispering the use of objectivity is moot - in other words, given a set of neurological transforms whose contribution to data stream that it processes are not explicit and through which all information arriving from the external world must pass to arrive at the first point where we can gain access(FA) TO SUCH INFORMATION, THERE IS LITERALLY NOPOSSIBILITY OF OBJECTIVITY. Well I went back and reread Chapter One. Question popped up so I invite you both to please respond. So are we saying here that because of the lack of explicity at the neurological level as the  information is received at the FA access point all my new information received at the FA point then goes through another refiltering(translation) process based on my own self biasness as I reuse my favorite senses which then triggers my language/state which results in all my F2 transforms being subjective in nature only? If so how do I re-regulate(filter)and redirect and build a new subjectivity (redundancy)with all this new data coming towards me --say a new state and new representation/language? all the best  kc