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Topic: Importance of Emergence
Posted by: Charlie Conklin
Date/Time: 19/01/2004 23:39:17

Hi John & Carmen,

At the London NLP Modeling 1 seminar, you (John) mentioned that work on "RedTail Math" was mostly done, but stalled, due to the importance of understanding emergent phenomena. I don't understanding of the importance of emergent phenomena in your Epistemological framework, but am quite curious.

Given this, I thought I might offer a tentative definition of emergence as a starting point. Could you verify or correct this definition according to your understanding of the moment, and help me to understand its importance to your Epistemology?

(Definition courtesy David Deutsch)

Emergence: An emergent phenomenon is one (such as life, thought, or computation) about which there are comprehensible facts or explanations which are not simply deducible from lower-level theories, but which may be explicable or predictable by higher-level theories refering directly to that phenomenon.


- Charlie

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Importance of Emergence19/01/2004 23:39:17Charlie Conklin
     Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 02:29:01pam g
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 05:48:50Stephen Bray
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 11:13:58Martin Messier
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 13:01:40Pam
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 13:23:27GSM
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 17:22:04Lewis Walker
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 18:20:41Martin Messier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 20:30:45Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 22:23:16sid
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence21/01/2004 15:01:43Martin Messier
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence21/01/2004 16:52:58Lewis Walker
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence21/01/2004 17:59:07Tom
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 03:54:59Stephen Bray
     Re:Importance of Emergence29/01/2004 20:28:15nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence29/01/2004 22:28:27nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence29/01/2004 22:52:19nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 14:48:31Charlie Conklin
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 19:45:20yojimbe
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 20:55:30Charlie Conklin
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 04:45:44yojimbe
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 19:45:49Ryan Nagy
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 04:19:59zero cool
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 17:47:00Stephen Bray
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 17:41:51John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 20:29:23nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 22:28:36Mark MacLean
                              :Re:Re:Importance of Emergence02/02/2004 04:26:11Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence01/02/2004 05:18:14Ryan Nagy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence04/02/2004 19:11:37John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence13/05/2004 14:24:48Doug C
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence13/05/2004 19:51:26nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence02/02/2004 10:01:21nj
               To: Charlie Conklin, Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 20:49:19nj
                    Re:To: Charlie Conklin, Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 20:58:24nj
                         Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 09:44:36so Kool
                              Re:Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 10:27:05nj
                                   Re:Re:Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 12:49:55ny
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 20:13:51nj
     Re:Importance of Emergence04/02/2004 21:57:43Todd
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence05/02/2004 03:57:54Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence06/02/2004 21:21:44Pete West
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence05/02/2004 05:28:35nj
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence05/02/2004 22:07:30Todd
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence06/02/2004 03:45:24nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence06/02/2004 20:53:14John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re Silliness of Emergence07/02/2004 04:19:02Zero cool
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence07/02/2004 07:16:40nj
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence18/02/2004 22:53:54Todd
               Red Tail Math and the Importance of Emergence19/02/2004 18:11:09Amilcar
                    Re:Red Tail Math and the Importance of Emergence19/02/2004 22:31:54nj
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence10/05/2004 21:15:06nj
                    Re:Intention15/05/2004 16:18:07Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Intention15/05/2004 19:48:17nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Intention15/05/2004 19:56:28nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Intention16/05/2004 01:34:21Ryan Nagy
     Re:Importance of Emergence10/05/2004 23:43:00nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence11/05/2004 05:23:11nj
               Borges bent my silver-where?11/05/2004 06:33:06markus
          The teddy bear, explanation, presumptions, & arguments from analogy.11/05/2004 08:08:23nj
               Re:The teddy bear, explanation, presumptions, & arguments from analogy.13/05/2004 10:08:48Ingmar
                    Re:Re:The teddy bear, explanation, presumptions, & arguments from analogy.13/05/2004 15:53:42James Tsakalos
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence11/05/2004 08:45:43nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/05/2004 18:35:59nj
     Re:Importance of Emergence14/05/2004 21:09:540

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