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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence
Posted by: GSM
Date/Time: 20/01/2004 13:23:27

One area of interest in terms [Cellular automata and the emergence of complexity]of studying the emergence of irreducible phenomena can be found at by Steven Wolfram.

Also this is a brief summary pdf file:

Also related (taken from this site) are some of the work that Paul Davies' work on astrobiology has led him to "wonder whether perhaps living systems might be characterized by having rules that somehow depend on global features of their state."

Below are some 'quick takes on some of the ideas and discoveries' in this area:

1.  Mathematical equations do not capture many of nature’s most essential mechanisms.
2.  Thinking in terms of programs rather than equations opens up a new kind of science.
3.  Even extremely simple programs can produce behavior of immense complexity.
4.  Simple programs can yield behavior startlingly like what we see in nature.
5.  Simple programs can do much more than typical programs written by programmers.
6.  Simple computer experiments reveal a vast world of new phenomena.
7.  Randomness in physics can be explained by mechanisms of simple programs.
8.  Thermodynamic behavior can be explained by mechanisms of simple programs.
9.  Complexity in biology can be explained by mechanisms of simple programs.
10.  Simple programs may lay the groundwork for new insights about financial systems.
11.  Our whole universe may be governed by a single underlying simple program.
12.  Underlying space there may be a simple discrete structure.
13.  Time may have a fundamentally different nature from space.
14.  Systems with exceptionally simple rules can be universal computers.
15.  Many systems in nature are capable of universal computation.
16.  The Principle of Computational Equivalence provides a broad synthesis.
17.  Many systems in nature are computationally equivalent to us as humans.
18.  Many systems in nature can show features like intelligence.
19.  Extraterrestrial intelligence is inevitably difficult to define and recognize.
20.  It is easy to make randomness that we cannot decode.
21.  Apparent complexity in nature follows from computational equivalence.
22.  Many important phenomena are computationally irreducible.
23.  Apparent free will can arise from computational irreducibility.
24.  Undecidability occurs in natural science, not just mathematics.
25.  The difficulty of doing mathematics reflects computational irreducibility.
26.  Existing mathematics covers only a tiny fraction of all possibilities.
27.  Studying simple programs can form a basis for technical education.
28.  Mechanisms from simple programs suggest new kinds of technology.

Further explanations can be found here:



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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Importance of Emergence19/01/2004 23:39:17Charlie Conklin
     Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 02:29:01pam g
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 05:48:50Stephen Bray
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 11:13:58Martin Messier
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 13:01:40Pam
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 13:23:27GSM
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 17:22:04Lewis Walker
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 18:20:41Martin Messier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 20:30:45Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence20/01/2004 22:23:16sid
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence21/01/2004 15:01:43Martin Messier
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence21/01/2004 16:52:58Lewis Walker
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence21/01/2004 17:59:07Tom
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 03:54:59Stephen Bray
     Re:Importance of Emergence29/01/2004 20:28:15nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence29/01/2004 22:28:27nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence29/01/2004 22:52:19nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 14:48:31Charlie Conklin
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 19:45:20yojimbe
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 20:55:30Charlie Conklin
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 04:45:44yojimbe
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 19:45:49Ryan Nagy
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 04:19:59zero cool
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 17:47:00Stephen Bray
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 17:41:51John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 20:29:23nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence31/01/2004 22:28:36Mark MacLean
                              :Re:Re:Importance of Emergence02/02/2004 04:26:11Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence01/02/2004 05:18:14Ryan Nagy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence04/02/2004 19:11:37John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence02/02/2004 10:01:21nj
               To: Charlie Conklin, Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 20:49:19nj
                    Re:To: Charlie Conklin, Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence30/01/2004 20:58:24nj
                         Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 09:44:36so Kool
                              Re:Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 10:27:05nj
                                   Re:Re:Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 12:49:55ny
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re: personal emergence wanted 04/02/2004 20:13:51nj
     Re:Importance of Emergence04/02/2004 21:57:43Todd
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence05/02/2004 03:57:54Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence06/02/2004 21:21:44Pete West
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence05/02/2004 05:28:35nj
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence05/02/2004 22:07:30Todd
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence06/02/2004 03:45:24nj
          Re:Re:Importance of Emergence06/02/2004 20:53:14John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re Silliness of Emergence07/02/2004 04:19:02Zero cool
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence07/02/2004 07:16:40nj
               Re:Re:Re:Importance of Emergence18/02/2004 22:53:54Todd
               Red Tail Math and the Importance of Emergence19/02/2004 18:11:09Amilcar
                    Re:Red Tail Math and the Importance of Emergence19/02/2004 22:31:54nj

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