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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP
Posted by: Jon Edwards
Date/Time: 20/12/2002 16:05:26

Hi Michael and Lewis,

Thanks for some fascinating insights - I'm really appreciating why John and Carmen set so much importance on the use of sensory-based description!

I've been playing with various techniques to get myself to a "know-nothing" or "high-performance" state. (Unfortunately I'm working alone so I don't have the benefit of a skilled observer/coach).

From a left-brained/logical standpoint, there seems to me to be some significant differences between activities like juggling, and the New Code example of the Alphabet Game. I'm wondering if you've found that these differences "make a difference" in practical application

I've noticed two differences, and I wonder if anyone could offer guidance on how important those differences are -

1. A random stimulus, external to the person - in the Alphabet Game (at least on the first pass), the player does not know what letters will be linked to what moves, so there is an element of being open to, and reacting to, external events. (With activities like juggling, there will always be small variations in the trajectories of the balls, and such, but these are much more within the player's control)

2. A verbal/linguistic element - in the Alphabet Game, there is a verbal as well as a kinesthetic/movement response to each letter. I'm wondering if this is an important distinction, as it (presumably) activates the part of the brain that processes language? So, perhaps, if the "problem context" which you're aiming to affect has a linguistic element, do you get better results by using a game that involves a linguistic/verbal element? That's not to say that juggling won't be a very useful exercise, just to say that one with a verbal element will be even more useful?

Hope that makes sense?

Cheers, Jon

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Changing with New Code NLP09/12/2002 13:55:48Michael Carroll
     Re:Changing with New Code NLP09/12/2002 22:41:01thepropagandist
     Re:Changing with New Code NLP11/12/2002 01:33:51Louisea Marnie
          Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP14/12/2002 13:25:32Michael Carroll
     Re:Changing with New Code NLP11/12/2002 01:57:36Zig
          ReReReRe:Re:Changing with New Code NLP12/12/2002 19:49:54kc
               Re:ReReReRe:Re:Changing with New Code NLP09/03/2003 19:18:51Gary Ludewig
                    Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:Changing with New Code NLP10/03/2003 02:38:57John Grinder and Carmen Bostic St. Clair
     Re:Changing with New Code NLP15/12/2002 23:20:13Lewis Walker
          Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP19/12/2002 00:08:31Michael Carroll
               Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP19/12/2002 07:52:01Lewis Walker
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP19/12/2002 18:08:34John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP20/12/2002 15:38:00Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP20/12/2002 17:47:05John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP20/12/2002 18:53:27Jon Edwards
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP20/12/2002 22:16:41Lewis Walker
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP20/12/2002 16:05:26Jon Edwards
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP20/12/2002 19:27:45John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP21/12/2002 11:55:12Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP21/12/2002 14:03:10Jon Edwards
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP22/12/2002 21:27:55Lewis Walker
                                   Alphabet Game Online04/02/2003 23:38:37Rob Manson
                                        Alphabet Game Offline05/02/2003 01:15:18Rob Manson
                                             Re:Alphabet Game Offline05/02/2003 19:33:10John Grinder
                                                  Re:Re:Alphabet Game Offline10/03/2003 23:35:01anarchaist
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Alphabet Game Offline12/03/2003 02:32:47John Grinder
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Alphabet Game Offline17/03/2003 15:11:14Anarkissed
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP27/04/2003 21:04:22david
               Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP23/12/2002 22:38:09thepropagandist
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP24/12/2002 00:28:15Stephen
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Changing with New Code NLP04/02/2003 17:09:33tornado

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