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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc
Posted by: Spike
Date/Time: 09/06/2003 03:49:35

Dr Grinder

First allow me to say that I found your posts in this thread to be extraordinarily rewarding to read, and the advice you offer is advice I aspire to follow.

However there has also been one aspect of them which has been bugging me ever since I first read them.

you wrote:
!"Also take a lesson from Castenada in the sense of cultivating a practice of reducing self-revelation, be whatever you choose to be but explain nothing and forget that you have a background (or alternatively, keep your background to yourself). While being absolutely straightforward or whatever your style, there is little point to describing the past - you are what you are, you do what you do. People who make judgments about others based on their personal history are often seeking to categorize and predict behavior. These same people fail to note and respond to the person in the present. Of course, if my job is to vet potential intelligence sources, such a background investigation is warranted and relevant - otherwise, place yourself firmly in the present with a future dream as an orienting reference point and kick."

Allow me to paraphrase some of the advice you offer here (and hopefully I will not get that word backwards this time:)

- Do not reveal stuff about your background and personal history.
- Let your actions be guided by what you want to be in the future.

To me this appears to be content advice. Granted it is on a high level of abstraction, but still advice to avoid certain content in conversations, and advice to put attention on the future rather than the past, which admittedly would seem rather quirky even to me, but still.

I just reread the pages 334 to 344, where you and Bostic st Clair point to the fact that there are no formal characteristics defining the process/content distinction and seem to say that it is a relational quality, so that content is content in relation to something, and the same goes for process.

My question is how to discern that your advice is process instructions rather than content advice, if indeed it is, or did I miss some communication from Jane where she provided the content in question, or is there another explanation?


Entire Thread

TopicDate PostedPosted By
Mission, Purpose etc18/05/2003 13:09:50Jane
     Re:Mission, Purpose etc20/05/2003 18:22:31John Grinder
          Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc21/05/2003 17:07:24Jane
               Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc21/05/2003 19:09:06John Grinder
                    Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....21/05/2003 20:34:16Mark MacLean
                         Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....27/05/2003 20:06:32John Grinder
                              Postmodernism28/05/2003 17:10:15Golf Swing Modeler
                                   Re:Postmodernism28/05/2003 18:30:14John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Postmodernism28/05/2003 22:11:47Golf Swing Modeler
                                             Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 12:06:32Michael Carroll
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 12:21:58Golf Swing Modeler
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 16:49:40John Schertzer
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 16:52:42Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 17:20:34John Schertzer
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 18:15:10Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 19:13:29John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....05/06/2003 23:52:47Mark MacLean
                                   Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 03:08:51John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 14:16:13John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 19:50:17Mark MacLean
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 20:06:10John Schertzer
                    Mission, Purpose etc22/05/2003 03:40:10thepropagandist
                         Re:Mission, Purpose etc27/05/2003 21:01:46John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc09/06/2003 03:49:35Spike
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc09/06/2003 16:42:12Johnn Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc13/06/2003 03:08:17Spike

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