Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime |
Posted by: | e_lie |
Date/Time: | 01/06/2004 10:37:16 |
"Is that [the gait of power] akin to the Walk of Power and Grace from New Code NLP?" The gait of power is something that don Juan introduces Carlos to in the book, Journey to Ixtlan by Castaneda. Within that same book, Carlos learns about 'erasing personal history' [an influence of and inspiration for what became classic code NLP's 'change personal history' process?], about 'Not-Doing' [nonidentification?], about 'Losing Self-Importance' [see John's remarks included below], about stopping the internal dialogue and about 'Stopping the World' (among other things that seem strangely similar, yet different, to what I've learned within the context of NLP training) from two Yaqui warriors [don Juan and don Genaro] who don't have beliefs, who merely 'act as if' they do [does this sound like someone familiar to you?], who 'act impeccably' and who 'trust their personal power' [Didn't a former NLP trainer by the name of Robbins do an audio course in the 90s of the same name? hmmm...] So when I read some of your remarks about "Non-Identification" ['Not-Doing'], about "the Stopping the World state" ['Stopping the World'], and about "The choice to decide that I am not bound by my personal history" [erase personal history], I found myself linking them to the teachings of don Juan and don Genaro [Grinder and Bandler], and the gait of power simply presented itself to me as an appropriate set of physical actions that might light your circuity and enable you to achieve Non-Identification. I seriously wonder if Bandler and Grinder "embodied the metaphor" of don Genaro and don Juan in the 70s during their collaboration. Consider the following: "[...]I [John Grinder] have found great value in his [Carlos Castaneda's] writings - especially as a guide for apprenticeships, reasonably outrageous behavior (most often when acting in concert with a partner) and most of all(after all, I already knew about outrageous behavior) to point to ways of engaging the unconscious processes we all carry within us and rarely tap to their full potential. These writings, then, serve as an interesting counterweight to the left brained babblings of people cursed by self-importance.[...]" http://www.nlpwhisperinginthewind.com/discussion/ShowMessage.Asp?ID=458 I trust that the Walk of Power and Grace is something that you discovered at the New Code training in Austin a while back. I wish I could have joined you there. Care to offer up a bit of a brief description of what that process entails, perhaps then we can compare and contrast the walk of power and grace with the gait of power. Cheers Stephen1, e_lie "I am not a number, I'm a free man" -#6 |
Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
Applications: E-Prime | 27/12/2002 23:30:59 | Stephen |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 28/12/2002 02:18:55 | John Grinder |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 28/12/2002 04:12:06 | Stephen |
Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 29/05/2004 13:36:39 | Richard |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Primehttp://www.nlpwhisperinginthewind.com/discussion/index.htm | 29/05/2004 22:33:21 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 04/06/2004 23:13:08 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 04/06/2004 23:32:21 | nj |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 05/06/2004 07:50:43 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 05/06/2004 07:50:44 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 07/06/2004 04:37:28 | nj |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 07/06/2004 05:48:18 | Greg Alexander |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 07/06/2004 08:51:21 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 07/06/2004 08:57:41 | e_lie |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 29/05/2004 13:08:22 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 29/05/2004 21:54:14 | stephen |
Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 30/05/2004 02:15:51 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 30/05/2004 13:31:05 | That Stephen |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 30/05/2004 23:47:17 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 31/05/2004 01:25:13 | Stephen Michael Hawley |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 31/05/2004 12:04:32 | e_lie |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 31/05/2004 14:45:51 | Greg Alexander |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 01/06/2004 03:03:37 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 01/06/2004 08:16:11 | Stephen Michael Hawley |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 01/06/2004 10:37:16 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 03/06/2004 18:10:35 | Stephen Michael Hawley |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 31/05/2004 20:08:20 | Stephen Michael Hawley |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 31/05/2004 23:55:29 | Greg Alexander |
Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 30/05/2004 14:31:51 | Richard |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 30/05/2004 14:56:56 | Stephen Michael Hawley |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 04/06/2004 11:58:43 | Eric Robbie |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 04/06/2004 13:46:27 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 04/06/2004 14:16:33 | John Schertzer |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 06/06/2004 13:47:13 | Greg Alexander |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 07/06/2004 02:50:36 | e_lie |
Re:Applications: E-Prime | 07/06/2004 04:51:17 | Greg Alexander |
Re:Re:Applications: E-Prime | 07/06/2004 09:54:49 | e_lie |
Re:Re:Re:E-prime IS absoid. | 07/06/2004 11:55:04 | Eric Robbie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:E-prime IS absoid. | 07/06/2004 20:11:04 | Stephen Michael Hawley |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:E-prime IS absoid - still | 11/06/2004 15:38:46 | Eric Robbie |
Re:Re:Re:Re:E-prime IS absoid. | 08/06/2004 01:18:38 | e_lie |