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Topic: Re:NLP & statistics
Posted by: Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
Date/Time: 02/01/2003 11:27:47

to carmen & John:
on page 78 of "Whispering" you write (4th paragraph) : "a psychologist using statistics ... will conclude that there is no pattern"

A psychologist who would conclude that is making a mistake against the rules of logic when it comes to interpreting his statistical results - unfortunately, this happens a lot, since few people seem to be able to interpret statistical results correctly.

If I cannot reject the nul-hypothesis, the correct conclusion is that I failed to prove the statistical significance of the pattern (if A then B). However, one cannot return the statement: according to the rules of logic, (if not A then not B) is NOT a correct statement.

In other words, it's not because I failed to prove that there is a pattern that there is no pattern.  Another possibility (and maybe havin,g the same probability) is that I need to use another strategy to find the pattern.

The point of using statistics is to deliver a proof - the absence of a proof doesn't prove much.  I hope you're not dismissing statistics on the base of such interpretation errors.

One of the points I come accross is that being able to prove there is a pattern using statistics helps a lot to achieve scientific credibility.  Thus, I prefer starting from the presuppostion that if there is a pattern, I'll find a way to develop a statistical test that will be able show there is a pattern.

Patrick
www.merlevede.biz


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
NLP & statistics02/01/2003 10:42:12Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
     Re:NLP & statistics02/01/2003 11:27:47Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 08:44:24Bruce
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 11:23:38Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
     Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 18:33:09Bruce
     Re:NLP & statistics05/01/2003 17:23:40John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics06/01/2003 07:47:18Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics17/01/2003 19:46:21John Grinder
               NLP & statistics18/01/2003 00:16:31suzyhomemaker
                    Re:NLP & statistics18/01/2003 04:03:44John Grinder
                         Re:Re:NLP & statistics18/01/2003 23:03:27Robert
                    Re:NLP & statistics09/02/2003 12:10:24Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               27/02/2003 02:28:33Ryan Nagy
               NLP/statistics/dynamic systems27/02/2003 02:33:32Ryan Nagy
                    Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems03/03/2003 06:53:34Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                         Re:Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems04/03/2003 17:45:19Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems04/03/2003 22:09:54John Grinder
          A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 03:19:20Rob Manson
               Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 04:16:48John Grinder
                    Re:Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 10:55:06Rob Manson
                         Re:Re:Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 17:22:38John Grinder
                    The genetics analogy21/01/2003 11:54:19Rob Manson
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:46John Grinder
                              Re:Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 05:35:59Rob Manson
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:48John Grinder
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:53John Grinder
                         Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 05:53:24nj
                              Re:Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 07:39:41Rob Manson
                                   Re:Re:Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 17:24:09John Grinder
                                        Re:Modelling vs Analysis22/01/2003 23:16:12Rob Manson
                    The genetics analogy21/01/2003 11:55:16Rob Manson
     Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 06:49:17Mike
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 16:39:35John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 17:25:03Mike
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 18:26:08John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics28/01/2003 20:04:54Mike

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