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Topic: Re:The genetics analogy
Posted by: John Grinder
Date/Time: 22/01/2003 04:27:48

RobMan

Couple of comments:

1. You wrote,

"Analysing populations for expressed and observable traits can however help point to areas that are worthy of further investigation. Not necessarily identifying specific internal models...but showing who has the traits we're interested in and how to allocate modelling resources."

Compare this to,

"Note that in this particular example, the only role that statistical tools (based on the probabilistic model) the use of the mean and possibly some measures that characterize the type of distribution such as standard deviation would have played would be to give the investigator some confidence that there was a pattern hidden in the amalgamated data (the group level results). Thus emboldened by this initial result, she could proceed to make a more refined study of the strategy and the strong proposals associated with it."
  Whispering, page 9

2. Could you amplify your remarks - namely,

"The 3 evolutionary forces of variation, replication and selection work for implicit models too"

I get the impression that this statement comes out of some larger tradition - I would appreciate a reference if this is correct. I am particularly riveted by the phase "implicit models" in this context.

3. You wrote,

"In both genetics and NLP the sequences or models are internal..."

I don't think so - the point of the NLP models that I have participated in creating is to explicate the patterning of excellence by some genius - the sole criterion to determine whether the model is successful - that is, does a person who has studied and learned the explicit model preform (roughly) like the original model (at least for that portion of the original model's behavior that was modeled. In what sense is this internal?

All the best,

John


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NLP & statistics02/01/2003 10:42:12Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
     Re:NLP & statistics02/01/2003 11:27:47Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 08:44:24Bruce
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 11:23:38Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
     Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 18:33:09Bruce
     Re:NLP & statistics05/01/2003 17:23:40John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics06/01/2003 07:47:18Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics17/01/2003 19:46:21John Grinder
               NLP & statistics18/01/2003 00:16:31suzyhomemaker
                    Re:NLP & statistics18/01/2003 04:03:44John Grinder
                         Re:Re:NLP & statistics18/01/2003 23:03:27Robert
                    Re:NLP & statistics09/02/2003 12:10:24Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               27/02/2003 02:28:33Ryan Nagy
               NLP/statistics/dynamic systems27/02/2003 02:33:32Ryan Nagy
                    Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems03/03/2003 06:53:34Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                         Re:Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems04/03/2003 17:45:19Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems04/03/2003 22:09:54John Grinder
          A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 03:19:20Rob Manson
               Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 04:16:48John Grinder
                    Re:Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 10:55:06Rob Manson
                         Re:Re:Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 17:22:38John Grinder
                    The genetics analogy21/01/2003 11:54:19Rob Manson
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:46John Grinder
                              Re:Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 05:35:59Rob Manson
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:48John Grinder
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:53John Grinder
                         Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 05:53:24nj
                              Re:Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 07:39:41Rob Manson
                                   Re:Re:Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 17:24:09John Grinder
                                        Re:Modelling vs Analysis22/01/2003 23:16:12Rob Manson
                    The genetics analogy21/01/2003 11:55:16Rob Manson
     Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 06:49:17Mike
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 16:39:35John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 17:25:03Mike
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 18:26:08John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics28/01/2003 20:04:54Mike

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