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Topic: Re:NLP & statistics
Posted by: Bruce
Date/Time: 04/01/2003 18:33:09

Again I agree with you patrick and this is as far as I see why many psychologists still see NLP as pop psychology at the best.
If an NLP researcher is to design an experiment it is incumbent upon them to design it in such a way that it is falsifiable, so that if the null hypothesis is upheld, they accept the results at face value. To then post hoc "discover" why they obtained a null hypothesis result is fine, providing they then test that discovery in a refined experiment.

My reading of p80-81 is that this is exactly what is lacking in this hypothetical piece of research. The possibility that other cortical activity would intervene before the eventual outcome of an above the horizon position of the eyes is not factored into the experimental design in the first place. To work in the way suggested on page 81 is similar to suggest in testing psychoanalysis that due to the process of internalisation children of aggressive parents will develop into aggressive adults themselves, then explaining children who grow up into passive adults through the concept of reaction formation.

It is surely a reasonable assumption to suggest the teaching of such hypotheses as accessing cues are factual, as done in NLP training seminars all over, is irresponsible and unethical in the light of equivocal experimental evidence.

Having said all of this I remain an ardent fan of NLP being a newcomer to it, and hope the kind of research needed to establish it as a serious proposition is forthcoming by the credible like researchers you mention.

                    Regards, Bruce.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
NLP & statistics02/01/2003 10:42:12Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
     Re:NLP & statistics02/01/2003 11:27:47Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 08:44:24Bruce
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 11:23:38Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
     Re:NLP & statistics04/01/2003 18:33:09Bruce
     Re:NLP & statistics05/01/2003 17:23:40John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics06/01/2003 07:47:18Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics17/01/2003 19:46:21John Grinder
               NLP & statistics18/01/2003 00:16:31suzyhomemaker
                    Re:NLP & statistics18/01/2003 04:03:44John Grinder
                         Re:Re:NLP & statistics18/01/2003 23:03:27Robert
                    Re:NLP & statistics09/02/2003 12:10:24Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               27/02/2003 02:28:33Ryan Nagy
               NLP/statistics/dynamic systems27/02/2003 02:33:32Ryan Nagy
                    Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems03/03/2003 06:53:34Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                         Re:Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems04/03/2003 17:45:19Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:NLP/statistics/dynamic systems04/03/2003 22:09:54John Grinder
          A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 03:19:20Rob Manson
               Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 04:16:48John Grinder
                    Re:Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 10:55:06Rob Manson
                         Re:Re:Re:A statistical model of elegance and diffusion21/01/2003 17:22:38John Grinder
                    The genetics analogy21/01/2003 11:54:19Rob Manson
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:46John Grinder
                              Re:Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 05:35:59Rob Manson
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:48John Grinder
                         Re:The genetics analogy22/01/2003 04:27:53John Grinder
                         Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 05:53:24nj
                              Re:Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 07:39:41Rob Manson
                                   Re:Re:Re:The genetics analogy. topic: Solutions to Puzzles/Recommendations22/01/2003 17:24:09John Grinder
                                        Re:Modelling vs Analysis22/01/2003 23:16:12Rob Manson
                    The genetics analogy21/01/2003 11:55:16Rob Manson
     Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 06:49:17Mike
          Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 16:39:35John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 17:25:03Mike
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics24/01/2003 18:26:08John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP & statistics28/01/2003 20:04:54Mike

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