Hello, Rob Manson. You wrote, "Analysing populations for expressed and observable traits can however help point to areas that are worthy of further investigation.  Not necessarily identifying specific internal models...but showing who has the traits we're interested in and how to allocate modeling resources." which I interpret to mean, "Populations of people contain individuals who demonstrate traits worth modeling.  Knowledge of what people demonstrate desirable traits will let NLP researchers describe the behaviors of such people.  NLP reseachers can analyze a population of people to gain that knowledge." Which populations would NLP researchers analyze?  And how would NLP researchers analyze a population? You wrote, "NLP modeling seems to have been intimately linked to the Application of 'change work' (another good reason for Whispering's cleaning up)." which I interpret to mean either, (a) "NLP Modeling was developed during modeling of therapeutic processes.  Therefore NLP Modeling needs to be cleaned up." (b)  "NLP Modeling appears to have been developed from modeling of therapeutic processes. Therefore it's good that 'Whispering In The Wind' discusses that falsehood." (c) "NLP Modeling appears to have been developed from modeling of therapeutic processes.  Therefore it's good that 'Whispering In The Wind' discusses how to improve the practice of NLP." (d) "NLP Modeling appears to have been intimately linked to application of therapeutic processes by people who did both.  Therefore it's good that 'Whispering In The Wind' discusses how therapeutic processes are not intimately linked to NLP Modeling." (e) "NLP Modeling appears to have a relationship to some behaviors falsely termed 'change work'.  It's good that 'Whispering In The Wind' identifies how past behaviors falsely termed 'change work' were not change work, and discusses how 'change work' and NLP Modeling are unrelated." (f) "NLP has a relationship with some behaviors falsely termed 'change work'.  It's good that 'Whispering In The Wind' identifies how past behaviors falsely termed 'change work' were not change work, and discusses behaviors correctly termed 'change work'." (g) "NLP has a relationship with change work. That relationship is another good reason for the correction of NLP practice that 'Whispering In The Wind' supplies." I won't list several more products of my interpreting your statement. Here are some questions that you could answer about the quoted statement taken from the post I reply to with this post. 1. What did you mean by the term 'change work', and your quoting of it?  2. How do you think change work is applied?  3. How is what others term 'change work' applied?  4. How specifically is NLP Modeling linked to application of what you refered to by quoting the term 'change work'?  5. What is cleaned up by the writing in the book "Whispering In The Wind' and then how specifically does that cleaning up take place? If any of my listed interpretations of your quoted statement read like what you meant to write, let me know which one.  Can you supply me your thoughts about the relationship between some kind of change work and what is termed "NLP Application" by Dr. Grinder & Ms. Bostic Clair? Please pick from my questions those you have time to answer.  Thank you, Rob Manson. -nj