| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:First Access |
| Posted by: | John Grinder |
| Date/Time: | 22/06/2003 18:45:38 |
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nj Your point number three: "What I want to check is whether you check state indicators in the client, and sometimes don't give names to the client's state, because you don't have a name for the state. Another possibility is that you name each of a client's possible states with some finite set of names." I simply don't give names the states that pass before me - I do mark for myself the distinct states that pass during an encounter - by not by naming (f2). It is sometimes the case that the client will name their own state (although not at my prompting). The situation is somewhat analygous to the state in which I model - namely, a temporary suspension of f2 transform (at the level of calibration). See pages 150 - 159 in Whispering and especially footnote 6 on page 185/186. It seems to me that the point is to recognize reoccurring states through calibration without any particular value in naming them. Should a client volunteer a name for a state when expressing that state physiologically, the agent is being offered a easy way of referring to it, should there be any value in that. I hasten to adde that the client's own name for a state is often part of the problem. The use of the term "fear" to describe the state a performer (actor, athlete...) experiences typically just prior to performance is an example - what is typically going on is that the physiology is preparing the performer for the demands of the performance - in such a case, the attaching of the name "fear" to the experience prompts the client to attempt to dampen the preparations (noradreniline...) being made physiologically and a battle between the unconscious (and perfectly appropriate) preparation and the conscious, engaging in that most futile of all activities, attempting to "control" the physiology. Please note that if you detect as the agent of change a characteristic gesture, breathing pattern, posture, sequence of rep system accesses..., these will serve more effectively as a way of referring to the state than a name and it avoids the problems mentioned above. All the best, John |