Topic: | Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms |
Posted by: | John Schertzer |
Date/Time: | 08/01/2004 22:03:54 |
If #5, why not simple dancing, and why not all the movements that one learns and chunks into walking, since that is a complex task as well, and something you wouldn't learn if there weren't other human beings to mimic? And if so, why not visual recognition of objects, shapes, or shadows? Why not phobia? Why not driving? Why not not learning to stop the flow of internal dialog and images, since it is itself something imagined and prescribed by F2 transforms? How does one actually distinguish F2 transforms from what happens previously? I still believe what John's calling FA is not previous to, but a special case of experience involving F2 transforms, even if that experience involves an interruption of what may usually be considered F2, ie zen meditation, martial arts, rock climbing, some forms of hypnosis, uptime, Castaneda's cafeteria of state elicitations... best, JS |