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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms
Posted by: nj
Date/Time: 15/01/2004 00:09:56

Hello, Anthony.

You wrote:

1.1 "How does ones choice of internal k fit in with stopping internal dialog or internal movies/pictures. Can we really stop our feelings completely."

If your question is:

1.2 Are stopping internal feelings and stopping internal dialog related, according to the logical type of experience that Dr. Grinder describes as "a state of stopped internal dialog"?

the answer is:

1.3 I don't know.  You'd better ask Dr. Grinder and Ms. Bostic St. Clair.

You wrote:

2.1 "Do you thing Dr Grinder does so?"

if your question is:

2.2 Do you think that Dr. Grinder stops his internal kinesthetics when he enters a state that he describes as a state of stopped internal dialog?

the answer is:

2.3 No.  But, if he claims that he does, you'd better check if what he's thinking that means accords with what you're thinking that means. You could offer him descriptions of signs of stopped internal kinesthetics, and find out if he agrees that he manifests those signs in the state that he describes as a state of "stopped internal dialog".  The signs could be ones that you think are possible signs, or ones that you don't think are possible signs to manifest (or detect in oneself).

In providing my answer [2.3], I assume that:

2.4 a state of stopped internal kinesthetics is impossible to attain, while a state of attention in which you are consciously unaware of your emotions is attainable.

2.5 if someone told me that I should stop my internal kinesthetics, his goal will be met if I stop paying conscious attention to my emotions (and start paying attention to what he wants me to pay attention to).

2.6 whether or not I can stop my internal feelings, I have no useful purpose to accomplish by consciously wishing for my emotions to literally stop, so to speak, on demand.

I question I have is:

3.1 How can I, in a way that I find comfortable, shift my attention to what someone else is demanding that I shift my attention to, on demand?

One reason for my asking that question [3.1] is:

3.2 a person who asks me to shift my attention might get impatient with how I feel, for example, if I'm fatigued or my mood is poor, particularly if I'm insecure about my performance ability in the context that that person is asking me to enter.

-nj


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Examples of f2 transforms05/01/2004 15:16:03GSM
     Re:Examples of f2 transforms05/01/2004 15:54:34GSM
          Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms05/01/2004 16:41:36Robert Ballentine
          Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 22:03:54John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 16:30:13GSM
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 16:48:30GSM
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 17:23:51John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 12:40:50GSM
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 13:46:33NY
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 13:59:47GSM
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 18:55:53John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 21:55:27nj
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 05:08:01NY
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 05:58:55nj
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 10:44:04Anthony
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 00:09:56nj
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 17:03:34John Schertzer
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 00:17:38nj
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 14:36:46John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 11:38:33GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 13:01:06Pete West
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 12:34:45GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 17:32:22John Schertzer
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 21:43:56GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 14:33:57John Schertzer
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 17:13:40GSM
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 17:32:43John Schertzer
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 19:47:26GSM
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 20:11:08John Schertzer
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 20:24:01GSM
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 20:45:16John Schertzer
                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 21:23:39GSM
                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 13:53:13John Schertzer
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 15:42:24GSM
                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 16:42:35John Schertzer
                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 16:50:27GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 18:14:30John Schertzer
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 02:44:10NY
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 17:23:53John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 18:04:57Anthony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 18:59:57John Schertzer
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 19:55:14Anthony
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 10:57:30ny
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 15:17:12John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 04:09:01ny
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 15:59:32GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 17:11:43John Schertzer
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 17:19:38GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 18:37:08John Schertzer
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 19:30:09GSM
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms20/01/2004 14:06:05John Schertzer
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms21/01/2004 09:42:49GSM
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms22/01/2004 13:56:54John Schertzer
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms22/01/2004 17:57:58John Grinder
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms23/01/2004 10:58:34GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 19:35:22John Grinder
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 20:18:58GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 22:36:19Anthony
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 23:11:53nj
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 12:49:54GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 20:59:31nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 20:01:22John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 10:56:48Roberto Wordmano
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 11:08:23Anthony
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 21:28:05nj
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms18/01/2004 02:02:14Roberto Wordmano
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms18/01/2004 23:35:00ny
     Re:Examples of f2 transforms06/01/2004 13:24:34Anthony
          Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms06/01/2004 15:55:32GSM
               Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms06/01/2004 23:02:51Anthony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 17:01:31John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 17:54:41nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 22:56:33GSM
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 23:26:28nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 22:58:06GSM
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 04:17:59Anthony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 20:00:57John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 21:29:40Anthony
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 12:57:36NY
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 18:47:19John Grinder

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