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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms
Posted by: Roberto Wordmano
Date/Time: 17/01/2004 10:56:48

John Grinder

Whoa now. Dr Grinder. Thru the last 15 years years I have been in front of every top dog in the NLP industry.

They have all pretty much trained in the same way and said the same thing when it came to use of language and its utility.

Richard Bandler always through his teaching tales pitched having a strong ferocious attitude and a trail of techniques in your pocket.(IM) His partner John LaValle in a fireside chat 6 years ago disclosed to me that all the power of what Richard and he did was in their use of language. Michael Halls comment 4 years was the brain is an attracter system. He continued to pontificate that we frame setting is normal (wrote a few books on the subject)and clearly hinted that our belief systems and back filling behaviors are a a normal move toward excellence in humans and that when I had an experience or used any language structure I should investigate what I say writing the pressupositions down, meta model myself and ask one simple question, Does what I am saying at the moment, serve me well" Jesus Christ John,  Robert Dilts one day in New York told me when IM asked him that all oppurtunities in belief chainge was in ferreting out the different  logical levels and then get outside myself and start to begin to study new models of behavior whether they are dead or alive.

Now Dr Grinder you are writing to Anthony,GSM, John Schertzer and a few others clearly hinting that all what I was trained in from the experts in the past, I must now throw away. Now,if I am to take John Grinders word for it,looking at New Code this way of seeing in the past is over. John Grinder and Carmen Bostic formally propose to suspend f2 filters(language) get into an I don't know state
(is their an attitude in that) and allow my unconscious to do its thing staying far far far away from "as you say it,"content" issues but then keeping far back in my in mind to be ready to be brought to the forefront a simple but useful resourceful feeling, the utility and context frame of, does it work?. But you don't have to reply back again if you don't want to!

How dare you Grinder?

Roberto


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Examples of f2 transforms05/01/2004 15:16:03GSM
     Re:Examples of f2 transforms05/01/2004 15:54:34GSM
          Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms05/01/2004 16:41:36Robert Ballentine
          Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 22:03:54John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 16:30:13GSM
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 16:48:30GSM
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 17:23:51John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 12:40:50GSM
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 13:46:33NY
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 13:59:47GSM
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 18:55:53John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms13/01/2004 21:55:27nj
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 05:08:01NY
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 05:58:55nj
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 10:44:04Anthony
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 00:09:56nj
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 17:03:34John Schertzer
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 00:17:38nj
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 14:36:46John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 11:38:33GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 13:01:06Pete West
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 12:34:45GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 17:32:22John Schertzer
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 21:43:56GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 14:33:57John Schertzer
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 17:13:40GSM
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 17:32:43John Schertzer
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 19:47:26GSM
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 20:11:08John Schertzer
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 20:24:01GSM
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 20:45:16John Schertzer
                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 21:23:39GSM
                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 13:53:13John Schertzer
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 15:42:24GSM
                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 16:42:35John Schertzer
                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 16:50:27GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 18:14:30John Schertzer
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms14/01/2004 02:44:10NY
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 17:23:53John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 18:04:57Anthony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 18:59:57John Schertzer
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms12/01/2004 19:55:14Anthony
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 10:57:30ny
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms15/01/2004 15:17:12John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 04:09:01ny
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 15:59:32GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 17:11:43John Schertzer
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 17:19:38GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 18:37:08John Schertzer
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 19:30:09GSM
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms20/01/2004 14:06:05John Schertzer
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms21/01/2004 09:42:49GSM
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms22/01/2004 13:56:54John Schertzer
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms22/01/2004 17:57:58John Grinder
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms23/01/2004 10:58:34GSM
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 19:35:22John Grinder
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 20:18:58GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 22:36:19Anthony
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 23:11:53nj
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 12:49:54GSM
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 20:59:31nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms16/01/2004 20:01:22John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 10:56:48Roberto Wordmano
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 11:08:23Anthony
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms17/01/2004 21:28:05nj
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms18/01/2004 02:02:14Roberto Wordmano
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms18/01/2004 23:35:00ny
     Re:Examples of f2 transforms06/01/2004 13:24:34Anthony
          Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms06/01/2004 15:55:32GSM
               Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms06/01/2004 23:02:51Anthony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 17:01:31John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 17:54:41nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 22:56:33GSM
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 23:26:28nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms07/01/2004 22:58:06GSM
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 04:17:59Anthony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 20:00:57John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms08/01/2004 21:29:40Anthony
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 12:57:36NY
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Examples of f2 transforms10/01/2004 18:47:19John Grinder

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